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Info-Atari16 Digest   Saturday, October  7, 1989   Volume 89 : Issue 476

This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield

Today's Topics:

                             Re: Modula2
                  Re: Argh!  MWC Resource & TEDINFO
        Re: Servicing interrupts from printer port BUSY line ?
                    Re: MIDI software for Atari ST
                      Re: Atari 1040ST for sale
          Servicing interrupts from printer port BUSY line ?
    Sun 3/80 (Was: Duesseldorf: personal impression of the TT(T))
          Re: Duesseldorf: personal impression of the TT(T)
                       SPECTRE AND WRITENOW2.0
       SPECTRE WITH FONT/DA MOVER 3.6 AND FINDER 6.0 SYSTEM 4.2
                            Re: Hard Drive
                  Terminator's Mail Server Shut Down

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Date: 14 Sep 89 19:38:42 GMT
From: att!chinet![e-mail]  (Stephen Jacobs)
Subject: Re: Modula2
To: [e-mail]

Ok, I can't replace the read.me file or the resource file from the Modula 2
kit with translations.  I think I'm not even allowed to distribute English
translations on the same disk.  Would someone find out (and post) whether
there would be any objection to distributing a translation of read.me and
a resource file remarkably like the one for the Modula 2 kit (but in English)
separately?  Also, if one of the Atari ST-oriented magazines could be
induced to make the Modula 2  package freely available (not, for instance,
on a bound-in disk), would there be any objection to an article (or series)
that specifically referred to it?
                                     Steve J.

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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 89 19:26:01 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Chip Roberson)
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Argh!  MWC Resource & TEDINFO

Ken,

In <[e-mail]> you write:

>>Ok, I got into WMC's Resource and first typed in 20 spaces, then
>>moved to the first character postion (in front of those 20 spaces)
>>and inserted an @-sign.  When I inserted the @, the spaces
>>were no longer visible (just underbars).
>>
>>I saved the new .rsc and decompiled it to look at the components
>>in textual form.  The @ + 20 spaces were there, though when it
>>decompiled, all of the CNAMEs for my edit fields had been changed
>>to really helpful names like FTXT_27A!
>
>oh, interesting... Odd... Could you still reference the fields by the
>names _you_ specified?  Do you have a Boxtext or what?

No, I couldn't get it reference the fields by the names I specified.
I had to get back into Resource and replace the generic names with
my original names.  I called MWC about it, and they said it would
be placed in the bug report bin.  What ever that means!  :-)

>>>Ok, the @ ensures you start on the left of the field before
>>>the user enters anything (and it's there, trust me), the blanks
>>>give space for the user to enter something!

>>I loaded the .rsc, that I had just built using Resource, into my program
>>and tried to edit the form.  The cursor cursor was at the beginning
>>of the field as you predicted and I could type in 20 characters of text.
>>HOWEVER, the new characters did not replace the underbars but instead
>>merged with them.  So I get R's that look like funny B's and A's that
>>look like sick 8's.
>
>Sounds like something is funky with flags elsewhere, you've got the
>principle down for creating editable text fields that are default
>to empty -- You might try re-creating the while shape from scratch...
>Sometimes K-Resource (oh, I mean MWC Resource ;-)) gets confused ;-)

Boy, you must be psychic because that is exactly what I did.  I got
out my unused copy of Compute!'s _ST Applications Guide: Programming
in C_ and copied how that guy rolled his own.  I then inserted this
new TEDINFO in place of mine and the thing worked!  Hmmm.  Where were
they different?  It was in te_color and te_thickness.  I dug around a
little deeper and saw that there is a bit (bit 3 ?2~3? the MSB of the
high nybble of the low byte) in te_color that is the TRANSPARENCY
flag.  MWC's Resource defaults to transparent and I had never changed
it to OPAQUE. By flipping it in Resource the form now works exactly
as I originally wanted, w/o having to patch the OBJECTs in my code.

>>>Try it, it should work if you do it _exactly_ like that and don't
>>>worry about not being able to see the @, ok?
>
>>Well, I think I have followed your instructions to the letter (almost
>>literally) and it's almost there, but asthetically unpleasing.  Have
>>I missed something?
>
>Nope, you got it, something somewhere else is messing this up... I can't
>imagine what it could be... ;-? When I get home I'll see what I can come
>up with, so probably more mail later, OK?

Well your hunch was right on the money.  I want to thank you, Steven
Jacobs ([e-mail]), and Robert de Vries ([e-mail])
for all of the help in getting this fixed!  Thanks!!!n

-c
| Chip Roberson                ARPANET:  [e-mail]           |
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| Dept of Comp. Sci.                     [e-mail]           |
| College of William and Mary                                       |
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Date: 14 Sep 89 12:02:56 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!icdoc!syma![e-mail]  (Jeremy Maris)
Subject: Re: Servicing interrupts from printer port BUSY line ?
To: [e-mail]

I found the problem - a bad connection!

Jeremy
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Jeremy Maris,Experimental Psychology,University of Sussex,Brighton,England.
Janet: [e-mail]  Nsfnet: [e-mail]
Bitnet: [e-mail] Usenet: ...mcvax!ukc!epvax!jeremym

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Date: 14 Sep 89 17:52:24 GMT
From: mcsun!hp4nl!telmail!neabbs![e-mail]  (FOLKERT VAN HEUSDEN)
Subject: Re: MIDI software for Atari ST
To: [e-mail]

Out 1,data
data=inp(1)
Ready=inp?(1)
This is for GFA-BASIC V2.0
Folkert
        van
            Heusden

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Date: 14 Sep 89 17:22:18 GMT
From: asuvax!hrc!force![e-mail]  (Richard E. Covert)
Subject: Re: Atari 1040ST for sale
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Erik Lode)
 writes:
>
>   I am trying to raise money for an impending move, so I am selling the
> following system.
>
>
>       Atari 1040ST
>
>       Asking $800
>

        Computer Works in Phoenix AZ (602-246-6364) sells the color 1040ST NEW for
$1000, and you can get a one meg version of the 520ST for $859. These are all
 BRAND
new STs with new color monitors and all the rest. I think that a USED color
 1040ST
should sell for about $600 (that's the street price here in Phoenix anyway).
 $800
seems kinda high when you can buy a brand new 1040ST for $1,000.

        CW adds an extra 1/2 meg to a stock 520ST to make it a 1040ST. Also, if you
want 2.5 Megs, you are better off buying a 520ST and having Computer Works add
 an
additional 2 megs of RAM for about $300. So, for about $1,000 for can buy a
 BRAND
new 520ST upped to 2.5 megs.

        Now, that's Power Without the Price!!!

richard (gtephx!covertr) covert

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Date: 14 Sep 89 10:33:33 GMT
From: mcsun!ukc!icdoc!syma![e-mail]  (Jeremy Maris)
Subject: Servicing interrupts from printer port BUSY line ?
To: [e-mail]

I am trying to read non-printer generated interrupts on the ST parallel
port
I'm trying to generate the interrupts from a button box attached to
the parallel port, with button presses producing a short (20ms) pulse
on the busy line (11).
I'm fairly sure the interrupt service routine is correct, but I don't
seem to be seeing any interrupts.

Anyone have any experience in generating interrupts in this nonstandard
way on prn: and have any thoughts about why I'm not seeing them.

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Jeremy Maris, Experimental Psychology, Sussex University, Falmer, Brighton
              E. Sussex BN1 9QY, England.

uucp    : ...mcvax!ukc!epvax!jeremym
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Bitnet  : [e-mail]

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Date: 14 Sep 89 18:49:49 GMT
From: polygen![e-mail]  (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Sun 3/80 (Was: Duesseldorf: personal impression of the TT(T))
To: [e-mail]

>
>
>Where do I get a Sun 3/80 for 5k ? I want one for that price!
>
>Today we got an offer from SUN Germany for a kind of 3/80 with 2*110 meg
 drives,
>a streamer box (extern!) and the SUN OS4.0 (they charged it extra with 1000$).
>The prices (after 30% discount) where 15k$ !!!!
>
>So if somewhere in the world I can get the same for 5k + drives then please
 tell
>me.
>
>
>       Andreas Toenne
>       [e-mail]
>

I've seen magazine ads from Sun for the Sparcstation One, their 12 MIPS RISC
machine, with 8MB memory and a grey-scale monitor for under $9K retail.  The
3 MIPS Sun 3/80 monochrome without disk is much less than that: $5K-$5.5K.

My guess is that the external tape box is at least a few grand, and maybe
Sun was offering you the 24-bit color model, or the Sun 3/80GX model
(super-fast accelerated 8-bit color graphics).  Remember that just the
monitors for such systems go for $2-3K.
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|                    |  Polygen Corporation  |           UUCP:               |
|  Jerry J. Shekhel  |   Waltham, MA 02254   |  ?princeton, mit-eddie,       |
|                    |    [phone]     |  buita, sunne?!polygen!jerry  |

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Date: 14 Sep 89 18:26:08 GMT
From: polygen![e-mail]  (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: Duesseldorf: personal impression of the TT(T)
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (B.SZABLAK) writes:
>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>:
>: How about the Sun 3/80?  It's a 68030 box with *awesome* Unix (SunOS), a
>: great programming environment, plenty of professional applications
>: available, for around $5K without disk.  You can buy it with 8- or 24-bit
>: color if you need that.
>
>Hey! What about an 80386 system? You can get a VGA 4Mb sytem with *awesome*
>UNIX(TM) System V for less than $4K -with- disk. A 1Mb MSDOS VGA system can
>come in under $3K -with- disk.
>

Yeah, yeah, I've seen these, and I must admit, if you want Unix cheap, a
standard '386 machine is probably the cheapest way to go, considering also
that you'll be able to run OS/2 and ungodly amounts of DOS software.  I,
personally, would pay the extra grand for SunOS -- a combination of System V
and 4.3BSD.  I've worked with IBM's AIX for their '386 PS/2, and I've seen
other versions of '386 Unix.  In most cases, they don't come close to the
feel of SunOS.

And if you think VGA is sufficient for running X-Windows, think again.  I'd
much rather use Sun's 19" hi-res monochrome system.
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|                    |  Polygen Corporation  |           UUCP:               |
|  Jerry J. Shekhel  |   Waltham, MA 02254   |  ?princeton, mit-eddie,       |
|                    |    [phone]     |  buita, sunne?!polygen!jerry  |

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Date:      Thu, 14 Sep 89 23:09:51 EDT
From:      "Gerry Greenberg: 315-443-5378"
 <[e-mail]>
To:        [e-mail]
Subject:   SPECTRE AND WRITENOW2.0

I recently bought WriteNow2.0 because I thought it'd be a nice, small,
quick wordprocessor to use on my 1MEG 520ST with two ds floppies.
Unfortunately, I've been having occassional problems with it...enough,
however, to discourage me from using it too much.  So, I was wondering
if anyone else out there has had any problems?  I will frequently get an
out of memory error message after openning and closing a file and then
trying to reopen another one.  I got writenow because I saw it listed as
a working program in the GBS newsletter for v 1.9, but as I said, I've
not had too much luck...It is possible I'm having some problems with my
system file(s) staying together ( a problem that plagued me a while ago
while using the MagicSac), but I'm not sure what is going on.  Please
post any comments to the net, or email me directly...thanks.
---Gerry
maxg@suvm   (bitnet)
[e-mail]   (internet)

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Date:      Thu, 14 Sep 89 23:16:59 EDT
From:      "Gerry Greenberg: 315-443-5378"
 <[e-mail]>
To:        [e-mail]
Subject:   SPECTRE WITH FONT/DA MOVER 3.6 AND FINDER 6.0 SYSTEM 4.2

The other day I had just started to use Font/DA Mover 3.6 with my 1meg
520ST running finder 6.0/system 4.2 on Spectre128, when I got one of the
most interesting error messages I've ever seen.  I had just transfered
about 4 fonts from a disk in the B drive to the system in drive, when it
happened!  I tried to transfer another font and got a message that said
something like "A serious problem has occurred".  The only thing you can
do at this point is quit out of font/da mover and go back to the
desktop.  I got rid of font/da mover and went back to my older 3.5
version and had no problems.  Anyone have any ideas?  Thanks---post to
net or email directly.
---Gerry
maxg@suvm   (bitnet)
[e-mail]   (internet)

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Date: 14 Sep 89 22:10:04 GMT
From:
 mailrus!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!watmath!watcgl!electro![e-mail]
-state.edu  (Ignac Kolenko)
Subject: Re: Hard Drive
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (George Woodside)
 writes:
>Drives A, a, B, and b are floppies. Functions to those drives use
>the floppy disk I/O vectors. Drive c is the cartridge port. Drives
>C-P and d-p are all vectored through another set of vectors, referred
>to as the hard disk vectors. In reality, they can be any type of
>storage media. It need only add itself to the vector, and support the
>proper functions.
>
>Note that support of 'A', 'a', 'B', and 'b' do not constitute four drives,
>only two. Drive 'C' is the only one with a case differentation. This
>differentation is really only effective on the desktop. Most shells




actually, only the desktop supports drive 'c'. and even that is not a true
drive since the way information is stored on a cartridge is **totally**
different than standard GEMDOS format. in fact, if you try to open a
file, using a gemdos command such as FOPEN, using drive 'c', gemdos
will automatically convert it for you to uppercase. gemdos
probably doesn't care about the case anyways.

thus, only the desktop can understand the pseudo drive 'c'.




--
=====Ignac A. Kolenko (The Ig)           watmath!watcgl!electro!ignac=====
     co-author of QuickST, and the entire line of Quick Shareware!!!!
       "I don't care if I don't win, 'cause I don't care if I fail"
             from 'Youth Of Today' by SUBURBAN DISTORTION

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Date: 15 Sep 89 03:05:00 GMT
From:
 gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!mailrus!shadooby!terminator!terminator.cc.umich.
edu![e-mail]  (Jon Brode)
Subject: Terminator's Mail Server Shut Down
To: [e-mail]

You may notice that the terminator atari archive server has been shut down.
This is due to the efforts of one person, [e-mail]. When the
system administrator at terminator logged on this afternoon there were over
100 messages in the mailqueue, 89 destined for him.

I suggest that everyone who appreciates the service that HB9ZZ has rendered
to the atari community send him a nice little message or two. I know I will.

I'm including an example of his irresponsible use of the server. We were
running on the honor code, asking people to limit requests to 500k and
10 files per day. This is his request list for the last 4 days.

Once we get our accounting package (black-listing) debugged, we will turn
the server on. In conclusion, I recommend that all other mail servers
blacklist the motherfucker also.

Jon Brode  --  [e-mail]  [e-mail]
 Ex-Terminator Atari Archive Moderator

Mon Sep 11 08:48:30 EDT 1989 [e-mail]
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